Friday, November 20, 2009

Broadway Then and Now


Can I just start by saying, this brilliantly lighted street to the left here isn't the Broadway that I knew when I was young!

Oh, yeah, the Great White Way, as they used to call it, had plenty of lights. But they weren't nearly as bright as they are now. It's just amazing how brilliant and colorful it is. It's probably brighter at night than it is sometimes during the day.

This first shot here is the view looking down toward 42nd Street from around West 46th Street. These pictures were all taken at about 10:30PM. Not all of the shows were out by then. We'd had a little rain that evening, but it didn't chase away the tourists, my husband and I included.

I spent several years way back in my youth trying to break into Broadway as a dancer. "A Chorus Line" had just made it big and the chorus seemed the easiest way to get in. I became a serious groupie of the show. I saw it some 30 times in standing room. In those days, though, standing room only cost $5, which was about the price of a movie. And you could buy your ticket ahead of time at some theatres. It was a cheap way to see a show and I saw a lot of them in standing room back then. And for my birthday, my grandfather would take me to Sardi's, the ancient watering hole of theatricals.


That was before Disney moved in. Now... some folks don't like the "Disney-fication" of 42nd Street. But I reckon most of those folks weren't regularly taken for a prostitute in broad daylight while on their way to dance class. Or if they were, they obviously didn't mind.

The regular Broadway con artists, mind you, knew you by your dance bag and generally ignored you. You were just part of the general scene.

My main dance studio was (as the song in "A Chorus Line" says) up a steep and narrow stairway... right over a taxi-dance joint. Which wasn't (ahem) a "real" taxi-dance joint, if you get my drift. One of the dance teachers used to tell us to stamp on the floor to wake up the girls downstairs. I knew I had become a "real" Broadway Baby on the day I came down from a dance class in the middle of the day and executed a perfect leap over a drunk who had passed out on the bottom step. Ah, the good old days. LOL


That's all changed now, though. Now they've closed down a couple of blocks to traffic on half of Broadway and they've got outside sitting areas like the one to the left. There are cute little evergreen potted plants as accents for a red and white bistro set-up.

So tourists can sit down and relax for a bit and watch the passersby pass by. This shot is taken just a few steps away from where I was first asked "How much?" as a young innocent. Times have definitely changed.

Dance has changed too. In my day we were expected to learn tap, jazz, and ballet. Hip hop came in basically after I went out. LOL Acrobatics was considered a specialty that you generally didn't need. No one was ever expected to do the difficult stuff those kids do on "So You Think You Can Dance." And I would never even have considered trying to be a dancer if they had.

I bonded with a small group of other dancers at the dance studio. And on Saturday nights after a late afternoon class we would go to the Tkts Booth on West 47th Street and get half priced tickets for a show. Of course it was usually a musical. We never went dancing for some reason. I guess because we'd already done plenty of that. It was more fun to go to some cheap place to eat and then see a show.


The Tkts Booth is still on West 47th Street. That's something that hasn't changed. But they've given it a new home. The picture to the left is of the red step roof over the Tkts Booth. It's a cool place to stop at night and take pictures.

How did they ever come up with the idea of making the roof into lit stairs??? I know stairs have a long history on Broadway, starting with Ziegfeld perhaps. But stairs as a roof??? LOL Anyway, it works. And it's very striking.

The picture below is of those same red stairs from the side. The actual place where you buy your tickets is under the highest part of the stairs on the outside. My husband and I haven't bought tickets there in a long time as we've gotten older and our schedules have gotten tighter. We generally don't have time to stand on a long line the same day and see what's available. But we're hoping to go there in the next week or so on a gift certificate a couple of friends gave us for Tkts. It's been a long time. But I like the new look an awful lot!



As for me, I never made it on Broadway. Not only was I not a good enough dancer, I wasn't a good type either... which is actually worse. Looking back on it, I think the best way for me to go would have been the nightclub route, where you could invent your own act. But I've always loved stories, so cabaret is kind of boring to me.

Broadway's changed in other ways as well. It likes to do a lot of revivals now, because it costs so much to put on a show. Producers want a sure thing and a lot of theatre goers are family oriented out-of-towners looking for a major event that they've already heard of. Disney often has several shows running on Broadway based on their films. And dance has returned to Broadway, though as I said in a more demanding form.

Generally speaking Broadway is not held in as high a regard as it once was. I've heard fans of American Idol diss a contestant by saying they'd only be good enough for Broadway. But... it still gives me a buzz.

Are there any other Broadway Babies out there???

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26 Comments:

Blogger Sandee said...

What a wonderful history lesson of Broadway. I'm betting it was fun. I grew up in the middle of nowhere so I've not had much theater experiences. Some things get better and some don't.

Have a terrific day. :)

November 20, 2009 6:58 PM  
Blogger Brenda said...

I enjoyed reading all about your experiences, but I am afraid I cannot share any similar stories. Well, lets see, I was on St. Louis Hop a couple of times. ( a show similar to American Bandstand) And as a young Brownie of maybe 8 or 10 yrs old I was on Captain 11. My only claim to fame...ha. I do however have a good friend that danced in the Civic Ballet for several years.
I wish TV shows or Movies would come back with some real talent like the Carol Burnett Show, with singing, dancing, etc. There were lots of shows like that many years ago, I just can't think of them right now. And I wonder why Hollywood does not make very many musicals anymore!? We have to keep watching, "Singing In The Rain", "Oklahoma", "The Music Man", and "My Fair Lady", etc. to get entertained.

November 20, 2009 8:53 PM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Sandy, there were definitely fun moments in my theatrical days. But I think I ultimately had more fun in community theatre. I especially love directing. Nowadays if given my druthers, I would prefer to direct my own plays. I've done that with a few one acts.

November 21, 2009 11:24 AM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Brenda, you went waaaay farther than me in show business! It sounds like you had lots and lots of fun! As far as I know only two of my friends of that time actually got jobs dancing.

I lost touch with them over the years as I joined the work-a-day world. But I did get to do a lot with community theatre. And that worked out well because that's where I met my husband. LOL


Hollywood "says" they don't make musicals any more because they've lost the know-how. And that it's hard to suddenly have people singing. That's real weird to me as the kids love videos. What are videos if not musical numbers? All you need to do is use musical numbers in the same way you'd use videos.

The TV program "Glee" doesn't seem to have any trouble doing that. It moves in and out of real situations while never appearing strange. I don't get what they think is so hard about it. Sure, if you do a bad musical it will do poorly. But that should be a given. Too many production types get stuck on a formula. And they create their own taboo list in the process.

November 21, 2009 11:31 AM  
Blogger Surfie said...

Not even close, I'm afraid. I never even got to take any dance classes when I was a kid. I'm completely uncoordinated and can't dance even a little bit. Well, maybe the hokey pokey. :)

I really liked reading your story! I bet that was an exciting time in your life. It sounded like such an adventure!

November 21, 2009 9:56 PM  
Blogger Shaddy said...

I envy you for the experiences you had trying to break into Broadway as a dancer. I admire your high aspirations and hard work.

Congratulations on your perfect leap over the drunk at the bottom of the stairs! You used your skills to your advantage in a real life situation rather than on stage to simply entertain.

I say, good for you Mary Anne.

November 21, 2009 9:57 PM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Surfie, I didn't get to take dance classes as a child either, though I always wanted to. I took classes later as a young adult. That was probably way too late, but it was fun to finally take them anyway.

November 22, 2009 10:41 AM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Shaddy, thank you so much! We went to the Tkts Booth yesterday to get tickets for a show. I took a few pictures which I'm thinking of using in an update today. I couldn't help thinking of you and all the wonderful shots you take.

November 22, 2009 10:44 AM  
Blogger Char said...

I would love to see a show on broadway. but i do regularly go (as i can afford them) to the broadway travelings shows. i saw wicked last year and loved it.

November 22, 2009 2:12 PM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Char, we saw "Wicked" too! We loved it! The traveling shows are always very good!

November 22, 2009 4:33 PM  
OpenID smallpines said...

Beautiful, beautiful post!

I'm a Broadway Baby, alright. LOL - Obsessed, and semi-retired. Nothing too notable, but I had a nice little career for a while there. Yeah, the New York that I moved to in the late 80s no longer exists. Beautiful post. It saddens me, but I guess progress is progress, but ... I miss it. Remember the Travelers Aid building on the NW corner of B'way and 42nd? Speaking of going up a steep and very narrow stairway - remember Harlequin Studios up behind the Howard Johnson's? And Broadway Arts! And the Playlands, and the Lunch Counter in the front of the Selwyn Theater? The Consulate Hotel on 49th!

Ah .... now I'm sad!

November 22, 2009 5:29 PM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Smallpines, yeah I remember. Especially the Harlequin Studios and Broadway Arts!

You say you're semi-retired? Do you still get up on the boards sometimes?

November 22, 2009 6:26 PM  
OpenID smallpines said...

I'm only in my 40s, so I guess I kind of joke about being semi-retired. LOL Musical Theatre Director/Musical Director, not an actor. Since we moved to the mountains, there's just been so much going on with the hour teardown and such, I haven't done a play in about a year. I'm thinking about doing something next Fall. I doubt I'll ever do anything back down in the city tho.

November 22, 2009 8:12 PM  
Blogger Personalized Sketches and Sentiments said...

Wow! I loved reading your post! What an exciting time and how amazing it must have been to experience all that!

I absolutely love musicals and it would be a dream to get to New York City some day :o) I would love to live right in the city for a while... it sounds like there is so much to see and do!

Thankfully our 3 kids have my hubby's musical and rhythm genes (my mom was very good at dancing and had a beautiful voice also). Somehow...that skipped over me...and I did not get any of that rubbed off from my hubby! (I am the one that finds myself missing a beat and goodness gracious...I can not get my body or feet to cooperate sometimes :o)

But... oh, how I love and admire those that are can dance, sing, and play music!

Blessings & Aloha!

(and thank you for stopping in and your sweet comment... as usual :o) Looking forward to Thanksgiving to see our 3 kiddos, son-in-law and his family... and also catch up on some blog reading.

November 22, 2009 8:35 PM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Small Pines, I love to direct! It's a lot like writing for me, seeing the scene come to life with the additions of the actors and crew. I don't have the musical chops to be a musical directer, but I can do easy choreography, which fits into most community theatre since most folks there aren't dancers.

If you do a show next year, be sure to let us know so we can crow proudly. LOL

November 23, 2009 8:27 AM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Personalized Sketches, we loved living in NYC! Everything is very active and in a lot of ways easier there. Unfortunately, it is also very expensive.

My husband and I both had one room studios when we got together. For a while we lived in his studio because it was bigger than mine. Then we decided we wanted something bigger. But we couldn't afford anything bigger in Manhattan.

So we moved in steps to Queens, where it's not cheap, but it's a lot cheaper...I mean a LOT cheaper. We could never afford a two bedroom apartment in Manhattan. It's way out of our league.

November 23, 2009 8:34 AM  
Anonymous Susan Tepper said...

Wow, this brought back some memories-- such an evocative piece on "old Broadway." It's brighter now, but the darker Broadway seemed more exciting!

November 23, 2009 1:25 PM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Susan, I know the new Broadway is kind of silly with its big casting call for the 5 Charmin Ambassadors for their public bathrooms at W. 46St. and Broadway during the holidays.

But the new White Way has so much more life than the old one. It's sort of a clean honkytonk, with free Wifi and enormous pictures of tourists flashed several stories high over Father Duffy Square from the American Eagle Outfitters at W. 46 and Broadway. One guy had his picture flashed with him on one knee with an engagement ring in his hand proposing. LOL

Sure, it's cheesy. But, I think I like it better. Maybe because it's almost a Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly movie come to life. All bright and shiny and full of color.

November 23, 2009 2:21 PM  
Blogger Jo said...

Omigosh, how wonnnnnnderful...!!!! I have been to New York and it is the most fabulous city in the world -- well, next to Paris. I loved Broadway.

"Only good enough for Broadway?" What else is there!!??

November 23, 2009 4:59 PM  
Blogger Unknown Mami said...

What a great post! Great way to get to know Broadway and you.

November 23, 2009 11:55 PM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Jo, yeah, there's nothing else quite like a Broadway show. Especially the big splashy musicals with lots of dancing. LOL

November 24, 2009 12:06 PM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Welcome, Unknown Mami! Love your blog!

November 24, 2009 12:06 PM  
Anonymous SANDY said...

Loved the pics and the stories behind it. I've never been to broadway; so this was great.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Sandy

Hope you and hubby have a grand tine when you go

November 24, 2009 5:24 PM  
Blogger Loree said...

How interesting. You've given me an insight into a world I could only imagine. I used to love to watch Fame on TV. It seemed so romantic to be a dancer or a musician.

November 25, 2009 2:34 AM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Sandy, we did have a grand time! That whole pedestrian gathering area on Broadway is even more fun during the day! They've even got free Wifi on that part of the street. LOL We didn't use it, but that means they're inviting people to hang out for a while.

November 25, 2009 11:59 AM  
Blogger Mary Anne Gruen said...

Loree, I guess it is romantic in its way. But it's also a hard and often heartbreaking grind. Movies always have to add a little magic to get things to work. Dramatic License I think they call it. LOL

November 25, 2009 12:02 PM  

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